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Category: | General road environment: A problem that needs to be fixed |
Tags: | burtonstonelane, councilresponse, myexperience, newlow, prioritysign, southbound, speedcushion, speedlimitsign, splitterisland, york |
Date time: | 2.19pm, Saturday 31st December, 2022 |
Time line: | Earlier | Later |
Facing: | South west |
Added by: | rebba |
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Credit: | Rebba |
Area: | Haxby |
[Image taken 31.12.22] Burton Stone Lane (southbound), York. Priority signage. Speed limit, splitter island and cycle channel, single speed cushion. All this paraphernalia and no or little effect on motorists' speeds. Cycling between Avenue/Grosvenor Roads and Bootham feels much less safe. And is visibly less safe: #188664.
In August 2022 (before the scheme had been installed) I submitted a complaint to CYC:
“Burton Stone Lane will get intervention to reduce driving speeds at the southern end. The aim is to make it safer and more attractive to walk and cycle at the Bootham end.
There has been no discussion of the remainder of Burton Stone Lane.
It is nonsensical to look at just one end of a street and not at its entirety.
The centre of Burton Stone Lane sees very high vehicle speeds.
The northern end of Burton Stone Lane is increasingly polluted and noisy. The number of people parking on the:
- pavement,
- verges,
- space in front of the commercial properties
is increasing.
This makes the space unsafe and unattractive to people who (might) walk, cycle, scoot or wheelchair, on their own or accompanied by a carer, family, friends...
It means the 'mix' - the variety - of people moving around the street actively reduces or becomes limited to daylight hours. This means the diversity reduces ever further and becomes ever more toxic. The people who might have a limiting effect on the anti-social behaviours of hanging around, heckling, commenting, trying to engage, fast driving, adapting motor vehicles to be louder and look more sporty, disappear.
This reduces community and increases crime and the preventable diseases of inactivity, isolation, mental health, and sleep disorders.
Two of the city's most disadvantaged areas are just west and just north of Burton Stone Lane.
When the two developments of the former Duncombe Barracks and the former football ground are complete, this will mean more motor vehicles on this road - along its length.
I fail to understand how CYC could look only at one end of a street and not at it in its entirety. The Ward Councillor has failed to respond.
With schools about to restart and the long hours of darkness ahead, I am raising this as a complaint.
Burton Stone Lane - centre and northern end - need URGENT investigation and intervention too. The residents along and around it also have a right to be able to walk, cycle, wheelchair safely and at the times we want (not are constrained) to do so.”
The response from the Complaints and Feedback Adviser on Friday, 30 December 2022 says:
“In relation to the information you originally requested I can provide you the following. There have been no issues that have been raised through road safety processes (local safety, accident history, speed concerns or danger reduction) so there is no trigger for any safety scheme in the areas of Burton Stone lane.
There have also not been any schemes raised by Councillors as Ward schemes through that process other than the speed management scheme at the A19 end raised by Members following concerns from residents.
The service area will look into any issues created on the footway by parked cars and resolve any issues where we can in line with the council policy and procedures.”
I don’t believe the response stacks up – Burton Stone Lane (as far north as Field View) and area was made a 20mph zone. There were speed cushions. Speeds are the main issue people associate with Burton Stone Lane.
The response from CYC illustrates why I am documenting and reporting problems using cyclestreets.net. I want there to be a record of problems and evidence they have been reported.
For the measurements here see: #187758. Other image today and links: #188984.
MY EXPERIENCE: In early February 2023 there were lights in the lower half of Burton Stone Lane (see: #190856) for utility works. CYC believes additional measures - a raised table outside new Duncombe Square development (see: #190859) - will slow speeds here. My experience contradicts this. I have found whenever a speed limiting measure is introduced here drivers try to beat me/other cyclists to it. However, the afternoon (daylight, clear weather, no sun in the eyes) I cycled Burton Stone Lane while the additional lights were at that location, a driver (possibly the same person each time) tried to pass me to get to the temporary lights ahead of me, tried to pass me inside the 'pound' and then - and this continues to haunt me - tried to pass me within around 10m of the junction with Bootham/Clifton ** despite a long minibus/small coach ** being visible at the turning into Burton Stone Lane and then in it, ie oncoming. The driver was immediately to my left and close to my rear rack. The person had to give way - there was no room to pass. But if I had had to stop suddenly or swerve I'd have been hit.
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